Harding ain’t that easy

(Sou wa tonya ga orosanai; “Wholesalers don’t give that kind of discount”)


Things won’t go the way you want. Things aren’t going to be as easy as you expect. A line that you give people when they expect more than is realistic. The image is of someone going to the wholesaler with inflated expectations of what kind of a discount they can get.


We begin with the adverb そう (sou), “in that way,” marked as the topic of discussion and set up with an implied contrast (to a different way) by the particle は (wa). The comment that follows begins with the noun 問屋 (tonya). The term is commonly translated as “wholesaler,” although historically it can also refer to private shippers of goods, warehouse managers, and to the warehouses themselves. 問屋 is marked by the particle が (ga) as the subject of a verb. And the verb in question is 卸す (orosu), which originally meant “to grate” but by extension came to refer to selling things at (discounted) wholesale prices.


Some versions may use the older negative ending 卸さ (orosanu).

Incidentally, 問屋 can also be pronounced toiya. In fact, you’d expect toiya to be correct, given that the root of this “spelling” is in the verb 問う (tou). It appears that tonya is the Edo-dialect pronunciation… but somehow it became standardized, and is the correct reading for this saying.

Example sentence:


(“Zenninsha no koto wo kojinteki ni kirai dakara, keiyaku kaijo shiyou to shiteiru no kai? Sou wa tonya ga orosan zo.”)

[“So, what, just because you personally hate your predecessor, you’re trying to get out of the contract? It’s not that simple.”]

About Confanity

I love the written word more than anything else I've had the chance to work with. I'm back in the States from Japan for grad school, but still studying Japanese with the hope of becoming a translator -- or writer, or even teacher -- as long as it's something language-related.
This entry was posted in Japanese, Kotowaza and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s